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Morbid Angel has been a band that has constantly delivered “the goods” when it comes to this style of extreme music. Uniquely crafting and playing one of a kind songs\/guitar solos by every guitarists involved, great vocalists (past and present), one of the best drummers in the genre, in short this band has always been a power house super group and a force to be reckoned with in the death metal scene, influencing many, many bands over the years. Having 9 releases (and surely another on the way), once again one is able to listen and see the progression Trey and company have achieved over the course of their 20 year plus career.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Although I could easily speak my peace about this band with a full historical article that could have taken pages to write about Morbid Angel, and could have reviewed every release with depth, I have decided to cop-out and say this. If you have never heard this band before and you claim to listen to death metal (or metal in general), then you haven\u2019t been in the scene for very long now, have you? Just listen for your self, but do your self a favor and start with the first letter in the alphabet; A<\/strong>ltars of Madness, from there you can decide what to do. – Mike – 2006<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> So how long have you guys been on tour for this tour right now? Is this the first US tour right now and are you guys going to tour Europe with this line up, or have you guys even done Europe yet?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Yeah, we did Europe already with this line-up (Morbid Angel, Deicide, and Zyklon) and this tour started Nov 20th.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Can you tell me anything about the Soilent Green guys?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Yeah, some of them got a bit injured, but huh, they\u2019re okay. It was icy roads in the mountains and somehow their vehicle overturned.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> How did this tour package get arranged?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Me and the rest of the guys have always talked to our manager about doing a tour with Deicide and it finally came together, so….<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Are you guys headlining all of the shows?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Yeah, we\u2019re playing last every night.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Some of the questions I\u2019m going to ask now are reoccurring questions that I have been asking a lot of the bands I have interviewed. The first one I\u2019m going to ask you is do you think or feel that metal music in general Satanic or the devils music. Some of the bands are saying yes while others have a difference of opinion, what is your opinion?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Metal in general, general being satanic? Well, what is satanic?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Well, yeah, I guess that\u2019s true too. You know there are a lot of Christian bands that preach God and Christianity and some people in certain bands think that is a contradiction because of what metal is supposed to stand for supposedly; sex, drugs, Satan, etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Well, the way I look at all that is um, there is no inherent meaning to anything, so we as thinkers all create our meanings for stuff. We either create them from our own ideas or we borrow them from others, whatever. It\u2019s all based on interpretation and our reference points. I really don\u2019t look at stuff like that, so…..<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> It is something that doesn\u2019t really matter?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Not in that way. I just look at it as Morbid Angel plays this kind of music that\u2019s extreme and I guess it goes into that category of death metal. It seems more like what we play than any of the other genres, labels, or whatever you would call music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Do you think Christian metal is hypocritical?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think about it like that. The thing is, I don\u2019t “think like this” so um, you have to change your whole thinking to change your reality because your reality is a product of your thoughts and the frame work of your thinking. The brain is like a computer and it starts as being empty and it\u2019s filled with all these things that we experience and that\u2019s the frame work in which we build our reality, because reality is not so static. One\u2019s reality is a product of their consistent thoughts and their reference points. If you study the Cabala (Cabala – 1. an occult philosophy of certain Jewish rabbis, esp. in the Middle Ages, based on a mystical interpretation of the Scriptures 2. any esoteric or secret doctrine; occultism. Variant(s): also kab\u00b7ba\u00b7la or ka\u00b7ba\u00b7la or ca\u00b7ba\u00b7la or cab\u00b7ba\u00b7la or kab\u00b7ba\u00b7lah) you\u2019ll see the interplay of being stimulated by your environment and then asking the questions “what does this mean, what do I do” and then coming to your internal reference point. There are two different internal reference points; the spiritual intuition from the higher self which is basically when you tap into the infinite intelligence in all things. The only thing that is real is energy fields and information and that\u2019s it. Physics or whatever when they break matter apart, it\u2019s not little particles of things and there is no inches between me and this sofa and this guitar and you. There\u2019s really nothing that separates us, we\u2019re all on the same wave-length of energy waves and information. When you come from your higher-self, your reference point is that you\u2019re subjectively connected with everything, so you know everything, you just know it. You might not have a word for it, but you just know it, the knowing is there. But if you come from your object referral reference point, the ego, well the ego is basically thinking objectively which means it\u2019s separating itself from stuff in an illusionary form because you can never really separate your self except from the ego. The ego can produce the illusion of that. That type of person, that kind of identity, everything it does is based on fear. With every new situation it is being lifted and flattened. It\u2019s going up and down; defining it self by how it reflects off other things, so it\u2019s powerless. When you come from spirit and you find the silent spaces between the thoughts, which is where this real stuff exists, then you just feel nothing but power because you can see that nothing will ever change, that it\u2019s all infinite and that you are one with everything and that nothing can hurt you or that you can\u2019t hurt anything else, it\u2019s just a continuum, a flow, if that makes any sense. Like I said the reference points for that would be Depauch Chopa (Spelling? It rhymed with that, so hopefully the readers can figure it out!! Sorry Trey!! – Mike – 2006) and I would say the Cabala but that\u2019s a little deeper study, but Depauch Chopa pretty much sums it all up. It\u2019s based on Indian metaphysical studies, quantum physics, he was a doctor, and he was a scientist, he was from India but he went through the path of science and stuff first and then later went into studying his culture and the spiritual side to his culture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Sounds pretty interesting and something we could probably discuss for hours, but we can\u2019t. In your opinion, what is evil?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> What does evil mean to you?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> True evil to me would be for example someone taking another\u2019s life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> So you are saying evil being negative? (Well, I guess if one is evil inside, in heart, then evil wouldn\u2019t be a “negative” thing? – Mike 2006) In asking me what is evil and how I define the word? Um….. (Long pause), I really don\u2019t think about it. I kind of moved away from using that term. I use evil as like “cool.” Something being favorable, but it is slang. I don\u2019t really think of…….. But I\u2019ll also use evil as negative, like something, like some person, like some “thing” being evil. I would say that it is the same as saying it is negative, or not desirable, but like I said we just put our own meanings to stuff, so I just use it as a word; however. Like “bad”, it could mean “it\u2019s not so good” or it could mean it\u2019s great, you know what I mean? But evil as far as negative, negative is of course just stuff that is disempowering. If I was really trying to clarify about a point that I didn\u2019t like, then I would probably use the word “negative” or disempowering or something like that as because so many people have different interpretations associated with that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

(At this point someone got on the bus and handed Trey a magazine Morbid Angel was featured in.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Do you collect magazines Morbid Angel are featured in?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Trey:<\/strong> Yeah, sure, I like to keep that kind of stuff. It\u2019s fun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Yes, it is, yes it is. Going back to evil, what do you think about 9\/11 and the terrorists, do you have an opinion on that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Sure, it was really negative. That particular event, if you isolate it and separate it from anything else, just that day, it was a catastrophe. It was a disgusting and criminal kind of thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Do you think “we” have the right to go and bomb them back?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Well see, then you\u2019re going to have to interpret the whole thing and I don\u2019t really know the whole story. I know that they have the same beliefs against “us”, and have had for a long time, as “we” have now against them, and as “we\u2019ve” had for a while. You really have to….. You have to live peoples lives to really understand where they are coming from, but I think what they did was definitely not within the let\u2019s say the “rules of warfare.” (In battle there is no law!! – Mike – 2006) If you can say that there are supposedly guidelines to engage war, it was more just, you know, like a drive by shooting kind of a stuff thing like that. That\u2019s just more criminal than anything else, so sure I think people that are plotting to do things like that against America, as far as just too attack civilians and terrorize people, certainly we should defend ourselves from it and try to figure out some way to stop it from happening and I guess there are different types of ways. I would prefer to figure out a way to where we could change their beliefs or we could change the way they associate things to our country to cause them to hate us so much. I prefer something like that but obviously if they are just, I mean you can\u2019t talk sense to a moron, so if they are just morons, which I don\u2019t know if they are morons, but we can just safely look at it that way and say; “They\u2019re just a whole bunch of morons, a bunch of animals, let\u2019s just exterminate them.” So there it is, but definitely I think that what they did, how they went about it, that was definitely just some stupid criminal crap.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> A lot of the tours that have European bands have been canceling a lot here lately because they won\u2019t allow them into this country. Did you guys have any kind of trouble while on tour flying across and what not?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> We\u2019ve been flying since then (9\/11).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Oh really, so you guys weren\u2019t in Europe when it happened?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> We went to Europe a long time ago, well, not too long ago. It was like last Dec., so…..<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Hmmmm, okay. You\u2019re walking down the street and a Christian walks up to you and hands you a flyer that reads; “Have you accepted Jesus Christ into your heart?” and begins to talk to you about his beliefs. Do you A) calmly tell him sorry but you have different beliefs and begin to talk about each others beliefs over a nice hot cup of coco. B) Walk away and say nothing. C) Tell him to fuck off and die.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> I usually just ignore stuff like that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Do or have a lot of people approached you due to having a metal shirt on and began preaching at you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> I\u2019m not really out on the street in those environments that much. I kind of lead my own kind of life and the kind of world that I create doesn\u2019t really include such things that much for such events to happen. But if someone did hand me something I would probably just ignore it. Because that is what I do, I ignore stuff that seems, um…. I delete, know what I mean, because, um, in life we are deleting things anyways. We only pay attention to things that are based on what we believe in and what are values are. I don\u2019t find any threat from Christians and I accept people to have completely different ideas and I\u2019ll also be right at the same time. So since my beliefs are more like, um, I create my self as well as my world and what I am is the silent witness that witnesses my manifestation and the unfolding of that from the manifest to the manifest and it\u2019s based on what I believe as to what I see, then um, those things really, you know I don\u2019t feel that I have to defend my self, you know to where I would feel threatened to where I would have to feel all “growled” up about it, it\u2019s just, its pretty much like um, some clicking going on, like a bird chirping. It doesn\u2019t really do anything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> What do you hope to find after you die?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> What I hope to find? Well, you\u2019d have to study the Kabbalah to get an idea where I come from with my beliefs. The only thing that dies is your ego. And all this stuff is an illusion anyway. I don\u2019t really believe in death.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Were you ever “forced” to attend church when you were younger?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Yeah, when I was a kid, sure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> What denomination?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Baptist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> When did you start “thinking for your self” or accepted your beliefs? When you were 18, moved out of the house?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> It started way before that. Maybe when I was 10, somewhere around there, it was pretty early.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> What did your parents think?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Well, my mom was always open minded, and as I got older and I got older she became even more open minded and the pressures from say my family, say outside of my mom, her mom, uncles, or whatever like that. Their authority or influence kind of just lessened, so um, people accepted it. My mom didn\u2019t really enforce it (going to church) and she pretty much realized that there was more to life than going to this church and accepting what they wanted us to believe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Are they cool with your accomplishments with Morbid Angel?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Sure, my mom is, definitely my dad, yeah, very much.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> It\u2019s cool when parents can support their kids like that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Yeah, they know I\u2019m just not out there telling people to do negative things, but actually trying to help them find their own liberation and break free from the chains of enslavement through other concepts and stuff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> What do you think about extreme kids who take the lyrics to any satanic band or evil band and start believing in what their favorite band is preaching? Do you ever feel like you could be responsible for influencing people or someone in a “negative” way due to Morbid Angles lyrics or anything?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> I\u2019m usually pretty careful as to what I say and I always give reference points and I never say like, um, something, like um, I never ask people to believe in me, personally. I just say that I like to play music and I am an instrument of spirit and I allow this energy to flow through me and that\u2019s what I want and want to do. My message is to help others find their own truths within themselves. If anything I\u2019m just sharing concepts and things like that that I have learned and then of course I give the references as to where I\u2019ve learned these things from. My message is always for creating and for building as opposed to destroying. The only time to destroy is to destroy the chains that would shackle somebody to limitations of society\u2019s beliefs and things like that. So that we can try also to stimulate people to break out of the idea that they need to align their beliefs with the majority of people. The belief; “How can everyone be wrong?”, you have to throw that out the door. I also try to influence, in some ways, people to read brilliant writers such as Depauch Choper because Depauch Choper I think is a very brilliant teacher today, he\u2019s alive today, and he has a lot of material out and what he teaches I believe is the organizing principals of the universe and what I think is the real stuff. And it is pretty shocking to a person who has no clue about it who is kind of a part of…… Like in the movie the Matrix or something like that. I do believe that that movie is based on a lot of real stuff, but it\u2019s not that we\u2019re enslaved by some alien thing (Some would argue!! – Mike – 2006) or anything like that, we\u2019re just enslaved by concepts and we need to realize that what we really are is this creative spark and that we\u2019re all one in this field of pure potentiality, and that we are god, but it\u2019s not our ego, our ego is not god. It\u2019s our higher self. The higher self is like the great ocean and we can never be separated from the great ocean even if we are put into this shell, our cup, our vessel, our ego, our body. We\u2019re still the water, but if we identify ourselves as the cup, then we\u2019re limited to time and space, we have um, how can I say it, we try to contain infinite, or infinity into some little short term life span. The energy is always there it\u2019s just that if we don\u2019t realize it then it\u2019s some stranger. There\u2019s a difference of identifying yourself as your ideas or the one that can think ideas, the energy that can think.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Saying all that, if you could describe your life or your philosophies in just one word what word would you use?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know about just one word right off the top of my head.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Okay, that is kind of limiting. How do you want to die?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think about stuff like that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> (Sarcastically speaking) you\u2019re ruining my questions!! Just kidding. If you could change one thing in history, would you and what would it be?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Probably not. I think everything had its purpose. We could have our idea of what we want to manifest. We can have our dreams or desire, but if it doesn\u2019t happen at this moment then it just isn\u2019t a part of the real big plan. It\u2019s not what your real self wants and needs, it\u2019s just what your ego wants and needs but the ego is not in control, so we should have desires, we have desires and we have the ability to manifest our desires, but as far as when it happens sometimes it just doesn\u2019t happen exactly how we want; on our schedule. We\u2019re not supposed to be putting our main power or hopes in whatever exact plans, but rather focus putting your enjoyment in the process, not the destination, the process of our life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Going onto different subjects, what is your favorite Morbid Angel song, or do you even have one?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> I don\u2019t really have just a favorite.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> They are all your “kids”?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Sure, but I guess I do like some better than others but I guess it really depends on what kind of mood I am in, because it (the music) covers a lot of ground I think.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> You\u2019ve probably been asked this like a million times and I\u2019m not sure if it has ever been answered or that if you have answered it, you have; “A-lters of…..” – “B-lessed are….” – “C-ovenant” – “D-omination” – E, F, G, H etc. Is there something behind that or what?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Sure, it\u2019s just um, a little fun thing that\u2019s there. To me it\u2019s also not loosing site of when I was a fan of music before I played guitar and how I was interested in the little special things that I thought bands did with their symbolism. So it\u2019s just something, with the first two records, we didn\u2019t really plan it with the first record but I think that the second record I think it just kind of fell into place but after that we started to realize that this was pretty interesting and this is “fun” and we\u2019re certainly going to continue it like that and it seems like just some little extra thing but if you want a technical explanation, it\u2019s like the Alpha\/Omega.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Well that\u2019s cool, fun is cool. I always wondered about that and Chris wouldn\u2019t answer that question for me when I interviewed him. I noticed he is not singing any more for you guys, who has replaced him?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Jared from Hate Eternal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> That\u2019s cool.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> He\u2019s doing a great job to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Do you have any closing words?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> Well, after this tour we\u2019re going to be focusing on a new CD and I\u2019m planning on having Phil A. (Pantera) to do the producing. He actually lives about 15 min. away from his house.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Outcast:<\/strong> Oh yeah, how did that tour go?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Trey:<\/strong> It was awesome. It was really cool. It was cool hanging out with Phil and the rest of the guys and really saw that Phil and I have a lot in common and developed a really cool friendship. I mean before this tour I knew about Pantera and I knew he liked death metal and knew that he liked Morbid Angel but I didn\u2019t really know anything more about it than that, but when I got to hang out with him I just really got to see what he was about and he\u2019s a really unique and very powerful individual and I think that some people who have magazines or whatever can be…… that don\u2019t understand him…… he has a really big heart and really cares about integrity, about music, and he\u2019s really totally against corporate bands and that whole selling out playing for the fuck kind of a thing. He\u2019s a really big fan of death and black metal. He\u2019s a really fun guy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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